I've recently upgraded to Version 6.13 (455674 App Store) running on MacOS. Search used to work beautifully but now when I search for something nothing is returned.

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Here are a few screenshots to illustrate what's happening. 1) First a view of some of my notes: 2) Searching for a term that is in one of the titles does not return any results. Using 'Leadership' 3) searching for a word 'Fema' that is used in the body of the first note also doesn't work At this point, without search, i'm finding that evernote is nearly useless. Had the same problem. In my eyes, this is a pretty major bug - while I could not search it turned Evernote from an incredibly useful tool I use everyday to being near useless. Managed to get this back working as well, but instructions above were not clear and took me a while to get working again. Basically needed to type 'Troubleshooting' in the help search box to find it, as was not there by default. Really, there should be a simple click-option to recreate the search indexing around the search box and asking the user if they want to do this immediately after searching, as I can't imagine someone who has used evernote for a long time not wanting to be able to search all their notes.

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Had the same problem. In my eyes, this is a pretty major bug - while I could not search it turned Evernote from an incredibly useful tool I use everyday to being near useless. Managed to get this back working as well, but instructions above were not clear and took me a while to get working again. Basically needed to type 'Troubleshooting' in the help search box to find it, as was not there by default. Really, there should be a simple click-option to recreate the search indexing around the search box and asking the user if they want to do this immediately after searching, as I can't imagine someone who has used evernote for a long time not wanting to be able to search all their notes. This happened to me the first time on upgrade to 6.13.3 (455969 Direct) for Mac today. Which means, I think, it's been happening over a month and Evernote hasn't fixed it. It's good to have the rebuild index option, but who would have thought to use that apart from the forums?

I appreciate the suggestion to rebuild the search index. I see that in several threads regarding the search function. However, just so the Evernote team knows, that doesn't work for everyone. I've rebuilt the search index several times and my Evernote still returns zero results on most searches. And I've read that I'm not the only one. Search works like a charm on my iPad, but not on my iMac or MacBook Pro. A next troubleshooting step is to resync your database.

Hold the.Shift. and.Option. keys on your keyboard and click the sync wheel. A next troubleshooting step is to resync your database.

Hold the.Shift. and.Option. keys on your keyboard and click the sync wheel Thanks for the suggestion, DTLow. But that made no difference. I also recreated the full text search index again. The search still doesn't work for me.

And I see more and more users reporting the problem. It's now become a deal-breaker.

I haven't seen much response from the Evernote team, which is discouraging. I simply don't have time to keep troubleshooting a problem that, imo, should be addressed in a better way than what I'm seeing. It's too bad too. I used to depend on Evernote pretty much daily. But I'm off to search for a replacement.

Thanks to everyone for their suggestions. Same thing here, MacOS High Sierra with latest updates, Evernote 6.13.1, does not find certain notes even with the search terms being in the description of the note, not even the note body content, let alone full-text content in attached files. Evernote on iOS still seems to work properly - but I would assume that the search index (or at least the process of indexing itself) for handheld devices is done centrally in a cloud.

This is a pretty serious issue, as it makes Evernote basically a 'copy to dev 0' storage. I found this out purely by coincidence, as a search on my iPad delivered results, whereas an identical search on my Macbook Pro came up empty. Started the index rebuild, but I find it difficult to assess from the event log wether or not the rebuild process has finished. The log is almost incomprehensible, (or should entires like 2018/01/17 23:29:30:025 I.

83XX0 -ENUXPuppetmaster evaluateRules UXPuppetmaster Evaluated script version: mac.169 should make any sense to me?) making me wish for something like the Windows Event log. Will monitor this thread for a couple of days before I submit a ticket. I would guess or hope the Evernote Dev Team is aware of the problem and working on a solution. Even more important would be a future mechanism to prevent this or address this by making users aware, e.g. By actively communicating a search index problem on a device; otherwise, if a search comes up empty, one might just think that one forgot to save it in Evernote. At least, up to this point, I would not have thought of checking on other devices if I get results if the first one delivered null. Let's face it: Search is THE USP of Evernote Premium if you consider the sheer volume of data you could theoretically store each month (and I am utilizing maybe 1% of my monthly upload volume), without a working search index, it is basically a data graveyard.

If I wanted unreliable search results, I´d just use my company's MS Outlook and save everything as a mail. Same for me, Evernote without a working function is useless.

Same as other, when i re-index i don't see any progress-bar and i don't understand anything in the log activity monitoring. And sincerely i don't have the feeling it works properly since i've done the re-indexation, it's a little bit better, but not like before, some of my notes doesn't appear in the list, it finds some things i don't care about. I have to search my notes on my smartphone to be sure to find it. EVERNOTE MUST CORRECT THAT QUICKLY!!!

I just encountered the same issue earlier today. I really like Evernote and I use it on a daily basis but I couldn't believe what a mess this was. Without this forum, I would have had no idea how to solve it. The most important thing in Evernote is the search bar. How could it not have been seen as a priority to protect this in the upgrade process (or automatically reindex the search as part of the upgrade process). Don't know what to say really. Even worse that this still hasn't been addressed so many months after the first issues. Also, there was nothing to indicate whether the re-indexing was still running, if it finished successfully, failed. UX at its worst.

Stunning that this issue has not been addressed. A couple of observations. I have noted that the latest Evernote installed on Windows 7 and 10 behave differently with saved searches. The web version and app on iOS work fine with the same saved searches. I fortunately had an install file for an older version (6.5.4.4720) which I have installed and the saved searches work well.

Not sure what version introduced the bug, but I would rather be running a version that is over two years old that works than a new version that does not! I am disappointed that Evernote tech support does not seem to be reading the posts on this forum or at least acknowledging that they are and let us know they are working on a solution! I had this exact same issue on Mac OS 10.13.6 on Evernote 7.2.2. The steps above did not resolve my issue. The 'Troubleshooter - Recreate Full Text Search Index' just hung there and it wasn't doing anything according to the 'Activity Log.' This is what I had to do to resolve it. Uninstall Evernote by dragging the app into 'Trash'.

Empty your 'Trash' bin. Now, in your Finder, and do a search on 'evernote'. The 'com.evernote.Evernote' should appear in your search results. With your cursor over that folder, do a two finger click and select 'Get Info'. Double-click on the folder icon under 'Preview' (if a new Finder window doesn't open up, you may need to go to your existing Finder window, highlight another folder other than 'com.evernote.Evernote', and then go back to the Get Info window and double-click in the preview folder). A new Finder window should open up. It should have 'com.evernote.Evernote' highlighted, and its parent folder 'CoreData' highlighted.

Scroll to the left to get to the 'Container' folder. Within the 'Container' folder, you'll find two folders that start with 'com.evernote'. Delete both of these folders (and all their subfolders). (DO NOT delete the 'Container' folder). Empty your 'Trash' bin. Restart your machine. This should completely remove all of your previous data associated with Evernote.

Once your Mac is restarted, open your AppStore and reinstall Evernote. Login with your Evernote account. At this point, your fresh install of Evernote should sync and reindex all your notes. This worked for me. Hope this works for all of you.

Please note, this is what worked for me. You're doing this at your own risk.

Anyone have tips on how to get out of Evernote. I've absolutely hit the wall of tolerance for the tool. The interface gets worse with every update, and my team is about to explode with frustration.

Any thoughts on how to get out? I'd like to be able to export into something useful, but the XML and HTML export options aren't exactly easy to work with or useful. (Thanks Evernote - one more reminder that it's time to get out.) I might move to Google Drive, or just Dropbox for now, but I want the notebooks in something more useful. Anyone found an easy path?

I'd have to go back a dozen versions because it has just gotten worse with every release. Your interface/UI team should be fired and replaced. Do some user testing, or something. It's horrible. We're all on Macs and increasingly everyone we work with is complaining about it. You guys should figure it out before it's too late.

Your software has gone from a business essential to absolute garbage on all platforms. The mobile apps should be dragged out and shot too. Sorry, to be harsh, but it's reality. I have hundreds of notes, and dumping to html isn't exactly easy to manage and import into another system. I found this: Sure - that was from that heady time when the sky was falling, and Evernote was writing its own death-ticket by raising prices and everyone with any brains was looking for an escape hatch. So at the time, I checked out the Evernote-OneNote import tool - more out of curiosity than any burning desire to throw Evernote over; I looked at a number of the so-called alternatives back then - and it was absolutely wretched. Some weird 100 note per notebook limit, tags lost/useless, etc. The folks who wrote it didn't seem to understand that what was good about Evernote needed to be preserved in OneNote to make it a viable alternative.

Well, maybe it's changed over the last two years, and if you're really looking to get out, it might be worth a look. For the OP, maybe the Apple-only Bear might work, but I am Windows/Android, so not an option for me to explore. Thanks, that’s good to know. I’ve been considering alternatives for a while. I reverted back to an older version but performance is still poor regardless of less bugs.

I have 20k + notes with a large fraction having PDFs and for 2 years performance has been an issue. I've been in the same sluggish boat for the past couple years. Downgrading to an older version (released 9 months ago) has helped. When it gets really bad, I'll get up and make a cup of coffee. My other technique is to work with two monitors.

When Evernote decides to get finicky, I use the other monitor and check up on the news. I have been a premium Evernote user for five years.

Loved this app. Web Clipper is not working anymore, particularly, the picture copy tool is what I use a lot. I contacted support a couple days ago, after months of not working correctly. They said, oh yeah, that is an issue. Staff is working on it.

I mentioned to Geoff that it has not been working for months. I understand when google updates chrome, then Evernote has to update and this may be the issue. Yet, every other App I use manages to deal with updates. Evernote is now 10 different apps in one, perhaps that is five too many. After a few texts back and forth with tech support, I asked if he had any solution or was their another App that clips photos I could use until Evernote Web Clipper was working again. He said no, and I said asked nicely, Why am I paying Premium when I have got no cost Basic service for the last 6 months.

His response was he could send the link to cancel my subscription. I thought that response cold. I said goodbye to Geoff. If that is Evernote's solution to a long time customer, it means I am trusting over 3000 notes, files to a company who could care less about me or my money. Please post if anyone knows a way transition my data out of Evernote? Or better yet, Evernote CEO, COO, CFO, please get back to the basics of what was a great tool for me to use. I will be glad to spend the money you charge.

After several support requests to address the sluggishness, I have not seen Evernote recommend this option. I haven't seen it suggested by Evernote in their blog posts. If HDD's are the culprit, why is Evernote so silent? If it was the solution, Evernote should make a formal statement and tell users to switch to SSD's.

SSD seems to work for most, but there are reports of those for whom it did not. Not making any excuses for EN, there are other variables like memory, processor speed, whatever else is running on the machine at any given time, OS version, etc. That can impact performance. But, if EN is the only thing running it would be nice to know what the minimal configuration is to achieve decent response times. IAC, not sure a company would want to admit that software limitations can be brute force fixed with hardware?

Relative to SSD for me, it is a great solution because everything is faster, from boot to all apps. EN comes along for the ride. For me, switching to SSD didn't help the lagging. Got a state of the art system which can easily handle large image and video processing, but evernote is slow as a snail. Reindexing the db helped for a while, but I can't do that every week. Well I guess I could, but I don't want to. I am reorganizing my data into notion.so and google drive right now, I think that combination will work for me.

My premium subscription runs out at the end of July. Unless there is some serious progress or at least communication about the issues, I won't renew it. I often have to switch between personal and work notes, and this in particular has become cumbersome. I switch between personal and work notes all the time.

I use two accounts, one for personal (a premium account) and one for work (a freebie). I share notebooks back and forth across as necessary: I share a small number of personal notebooks from my personal account to my work account (I don't want personal/private information on my work computer); and most of my work notebooks to my personal account, so wherever I am, I can generally access what I need. On the rare occasions when I am at work, but need something from a non-shared personal notebook, then I can use my phone for that. I have been a premium Evernote user for five years. Loved this app. Web Clipper is not working anymore, particularly, the picture copy tool is what I use a lot.

I contacted support a couple days ago, after months of not working correctly. They said, oh yeah, that is an issue. Staff is working on it. I mentioned to Geoff that it has not been working for months.

I understand when google updates chrome, then Evernote has to update and this may be the issue. Yet, every other App I use manages to deal with updates.

Evernote is now 10 different apps in one, perhaps that is five too many. After a few texts back and forth with tech support, I asked if he had any solution or was their another App that clips photos I could use until Evernote Web Clipper was working again. He said no, and I said asked nicely, Why am I paying Premium when I have got no cost Basic service for the last 6 months. His response was he could send the link to cancel my subscription. I thought that response cold. I said goodbye to Geoff. If that is Evernote's solution to a long time customer, it means I am trusting over 3000 notes, files to a company who could care less about me or my money.

Please post if anyone knows a way transition my data out of Evernote? Or better yet, Evernote CEO, COO, CFO, please get back to the basics of what was a great tool for me to use. I will be glad to spend the money you charge. Greg This is very similar to my interactions with them. I almost forgot about how irritating the Web Clipper has been, as I'd given up on it. I switch between personal and work notes all the time. I use two accounts, one for personal (a premium account) and one for work (a freebie).

I share notebooks back and forth across as necessary: I share a small number of personal notebooks from my personal account to my work account (I don't want personal/private information on my work computer); and most of my work notebooks to my personal account, so wherever I am, I can generally access what I need. On the rare occasions when I am at work, but need something from a non-shared personal notebook, then I can use my phone for that.   Yes, I know how to switch, but it's clunky and slow. It used to be nicely integrated. Now it has to slowly reload a new window. Jumping back and forth between business and personal feels like a chore. Yes, I know how to switch, but it's clunky and slow.

No, I don't need to switch; that's just the point. No reloading required; it's all done via sync.

I share notebooks to the other account, and they appear as part of that account's environment. I can stack them as needed search works, etc. Switching to a personal notebook when I'm at work is as simple as clicking on it, just like I would on a work notebook.

The only drawback is that you can't create tags in a notebook that's shared to you, but for me, my tag set is pretty stable, so it's rarely a problem. No, I don't need to switch; that's just the point. No reloading required; it's all done via sync. I share notebooks to the other account, and they appear as part of that account's environment. I can stack them as needed search works, etc. Switching to a personal notebook when I'm at work is as simple as clicking on it, just like I would on a work notebook.

The only drawback is  that you can't create tags in a notebook that's shared to you, but for me, my tag set is pretty stable, so it's rarely a problem.  I understand, but the notebook interface is lousy and the idea of sharing notebooks all over the place doesn't seem like a lot of fun. I can see how it might work for some, but I'm not really excited about a patch at this point. Just need to get out of it. Evernote has an export feature on the Mac and Windows platforms. There are also third party cloud services, for example. Sorry, there was a misunderstanding.

My original message was about getting data out of Apple Notes if one doesn't have access to a Mac and wants to retain images and attachments. Which seems pretty difficult to do and requires buying an expensive converter program that may or may not work as expected. I was replying to this ' There is a a way to migrate from Evernote to Apple Notes. From there it should be easy to share or export notes to whatever platform you want.' I don't think it's easy, and may not even be possible without losing some data. That's why I am not using Apple Notes for anything other than quick notes I don't intend to keep.

Evernote export tools are solid, no question about that. This is for the OP. Have you looked into?

I know they have an Evernote import tool. There's also this new kid on the block (well, new to me) called.

It looks like it's meant to be more team-focused supposedly replacing other apps for wikis, notes, docs, etc. Might be worth checking out. I think I may actually give it a throw.

Bear is neat but is pretty much Apple-focused only. It looks like you can import Evernote HTML files into Notion.

You'll have to do the images manually though. So I just played around with Notion for a little bit. It's easy to sign up with a Google account or create a new one. Holy cow, there is a lot of potential here.

I'm not interested in moving my life over to another app right now, but if I was I would seriously consider Notion. I'm kind of overwhelmed by what it can do. If you just need a place to keep text, there are probably better options for that.

But if you need text, next to tables, next to images, next to whatever, it seems like this might be the way to go. Seriously, spend a few minutes playing around with it. Here are some of my first impressions:.

Very visual. Lots of emojis. You can add covers to pages and grab beautiful images from NASA or Art Museums right within the app. Everything appears to be block-driven, so you create the kinds of blocks you need and move them around as needed. Indent blocks to make them child blocks of a parent.

It's really well done. If you just need text, just type text. You can create code blocks and then choose a language. Not sure exactly what that does yet.

Maybe it just highlights keywords. Heavy focus on keyboard shortcuts. Yay for that!. Lots of ready-made templates to create calendars, kanban boards, and so on. Anyone have tips on how to get out of Evernote. I've absolutely hit the wall of tolerance for the tool.

The interface gets worse with every update, and my team is about to explode with frustration. Any thoughts on how to get out? I'd like to be able to export into something useful, but the XML and HTML export options aren't exactly easy to work with or useful. (Thanks Evernote - one more reminder that it's time to get out.) I might move to Google Drive, or just Dropbox for now, but I want the notebooks in something more useful. Anyone found an easy path?

I'm very thankful for all the years I've been using Evernote (since 2007). That's my first time in En Foruns and I'm not glad to say that I've been thinking on leaving Evernote for another note taking software. The only one I found that deserves my attention is Nimbus Notes.

See a comparion chart here I hope it helps. I'm personally still not sure about leaving Evenote.

I'm very thankful for all the years I've been using Evernote (since 2007). That's my first time in En Foruns and I'm not glad to say that I've been thinking on leaving Evernote for another note taking software. The only one I found that deserves my attention is Nimbus Notes. See a comparion chart here I hope it helps. I'm personally still not sure about leaving Evenote Nimbus looks like an immature Evernote, and somewhat buggy, as noticed when trying to paste links and text, plus note links take you only to a browser, so not within the program itself. I look forwards to seeing the competition grow some more. Currently the only somewhat reasonable substitute I find to be an intelligent use of files together with Windows Explorer, plus a few Autohotkey scripts.

I have been surprised how fast Explorer can be, especially if you know how to set the indexing service correctly, search is nearly instantaneous (on my fast Windows computer anyways). Theoretically one could sync with Dropbox to other devices.

The only issue I would not be satisfied about is note (file) linking, I heavily depend on linking, and while html can handle file linking just fine, creating it and maintaining could be a bit burdensome, though browser bookmarks exports could help with this. One advantage (or disadvantage depending on how you look at it) is that the responsibility for file protection against corruption is yours. This limits the extent of any damage, but makes it very hard to detect hidden problems. While this system would probably work best with text files, it can work with any file supported by Explorer (text, PDF, Office, etc), that is, as far as file content, Explorer can of course find any file name. Currently the only somewhat reasonable substitute I find to be an intelligent use of files together with Windows Explorer, plus a few Autohotkey scripts. I have been surprised how fast Explorer can be, especially if you know how to set the indexing service correctly, search is nearly instantaneous (on my fast Windows computer anyways). Theoretically one could sync with Dropbox to other devices.

The only issue I would not be satisfied about is note (file) linking, I heavily depend on linking, and while html can handle file linking just fine, creating it and maintaining could be a bit burdensome, though browser bookmarks exports could help with this. One advantage (or disadvantage depending on how you look at it) is that the responsibility for file protection against corruption is yours. This limits the extent of any damage, but makes it very hard to detect hidden problems. While this system would probably work best with text files, it can work with any file supported by Explorer (text, PDF, Office, etc), that is, as far as file content, Explorer can of course find any file name. I've been using this solution for a year or so. It works excellent if you primarily use desktops. Where it is starting to run into issues is mobile.

There's no quick way to take notes complete with images and links without getting into some proprietary software. Not a single Office suite app on iOS is optimized for quick on-the-fly notetaking. Not to say that it can't be done, it's just not superfast as they all ask you if you want to save the previously used file. So I am using Apple Notes or Notability for quick notes & exporting them later.

I wouldn't consider leaving Evernote unless the replacement offers sync across mobile devices and desktops as good as EN as well as being available on mobile devices for information look-up when offline (i.e. Being 100's of km from the nearest cell tower, a mile underground, or deep in the bowels of a building). Does anything else offer that? I've looked at OneNote, it did not offer it when I iniitially chose EN, and recent attempts to confirm this did not leave me sure that it does. You might check out Notion.

I finally cancelled my premium membership. Feeling a bit sad and nostalgic about it, but in the last months I had the feeling that working around all the bugs cost me more time than I saved with EN. I'm going forward with a combination of notion, google drive & OCR-Software. A setup I tested for the past weeks and it meets my needs. Hate to see a fellow Evernote user go but if it is not working out for you, so you have to find something works for you for sure.

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I am curious to find out about your Notion use for sure. That app intrigued me for sure. Nonetheless, good luck with the new system. I understand the Google Drive requirement; provides cross-platform access to documents.

Also Google Docs/Sheets; althiugh I'm actually an Office/iWorks User. I'm guessing the OCR-Software is for PDFs. Can you expand on your Notion requirements. In the current setup, Notion is the center where everything comes together. For instance, to finish a project I might need a few audio files, a text document, a spreadsheet and some photos.

So I'll have a notion page where I make a checklist for the required material and for the todos, which I check off as it comes in, and add either the material itself (photos, audio) or links/emebeds to the files (for docs and spreadsheets). Writing and editing would be possible (and in some ways better) in notion than in google docs, but the team consens is to use google. You could then share the pages / subpages for others to add or edit things, but that's not something I need. There are also calendar and table/db options in notion which I use for other aspects of my work.

What I'll be missing most from EN is the reading text in images, quickly snapping a page from a book/magazione for later reference. I've got text fairy on my phone now, it does a good job, but of course it adds an additional step. W  riting      and editing  would be possible (and in some ways better) in notion than in   goo  gl  e  do   c  s ,  but  the team c onsens is to use google I understand; I'm an Apple user living in an MS Office world In the current setup, Notion is the center where everything comes together. Thats my view of the Evernote Note; a container where everything comes together. I like the simplicity of the html based format; it's ubiquious, readable by any web broser. I suspect Notion has better editing features, but I'm wary of a proprietary locked in format. Decided to try experimenting with Notion.

A few issues right away. Exported 1000 notes from EN to html. Tried to import; it crashed after 500 or so; and decided to put them all in the trash. Not a real loss, because on inspection, no attached content comes in anyway.

Their import guide warns images won't come over, but my PDFs didn't either. That's a killer; out of 23,791 notes, I have 4788 w/PDFs, and more with various other content attached. Also, Notion truncated note titles, and of course the detailed info that is kept with the notes goes away. There is also a cap on free usage; it appears that just importing all my notes without attached content would hit 100% based on what it says I used in my test. Appears a personal account w/unlimited is $4/month. But unless there is a better migration, I don't see going that way soon.

Decided to try experimenting with Notion. A few issues right away. Exported 1000 notes from EN to html. Tried to import; it crashed after 500 or so; and decided to put them all in the trash. Not a real loss, because on inspection, no attached content comes in anyway. Their import guide warns images won't come over, but my PDFs didn't either. That's a killer; out of 23,791 notes, I have 4788 w/PDFs, and more with various other content attached.

Also, Notion truncated note titles, and of course the detailed info that is kept with the notes goes away. There is also a cap on free usage; it appears that just importing all my notes without attached content would hit 100% based on what it says I used in my test. Appears a personal account w/unlimited is $4/month. But unless there is a better migration, I don't see going that way soon. Never tried the import thing because I'm taking the opportunity to do some reoganizing, but I can see how that would be a show stopper. I too am frustrated by Evernote, but are you really saying your problem is the UI?

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Not the text editor bugs, problems with sharing, missing notes or workchat? You're team is going to explode with frustration because it's not pretty enough? Or am I missing something? For me the issues are the constant bugs. The easiest way to export (in my experience) is to import everything using DEVONthink (Mac), which is probably one of the most robust personal information managers out there.

Is this a plug for DEVONthink in an Evernote forum? Not exactly (skip to the last paragraph if you’d like). Evernote has some amazing features that even after 10 years still puts it ahead of every other app out there, in my opinion. The handwriting recognition, snappy sync, effortless note creation / editing / management on multiple platforms, for example, still impress me after a decade with the service.

With all of these great features, I wouldn’t be using anything else, except. I need more security (encrypted database) for my work (handling personal data about others), and the days of thinking it was OK to have un-encrypted databases on the cloud are long gone (it was never OK for me, but after 2013, you’d think no one would accept such a state of affairs), but for some reason, Evernote refuses to invest in better security (zero-knowledge encrypted notes / notebooks). Too bad.

BUT, if I didn’t have to handle personal data, and I was like a lot of folks in this thread (if you are moving out of Evernote into Google, it seems to me that confidentiality isn’t a primary concern), I’d be wary of leaving Evernote. Heck, I still use Evernote for my research, and even pay for premium, because it is just too useful to leave. DEVONthink is a brilliant product with the best (?) security available (password protected app and zero-knowledge encrypted databases), but a lot of the things I mentioned that were great about Evernote are weaker or non-existent in DEVONthink. For example, I think it is fair to say that DEVONthink is the primary reason I would find it difficult to leave the Apple-verse, despite the problems with my keyboards (some Mac folks can probably sympathize with this dilemma). Anyhow, if your question is how to leave Evernote, my answer would be that Evernote is exceedingly portable (it’s one of their three “laws”), and DEVONthink does the best (in my opinion) at extracting the data in a workable format. If you are on Windows, maybe it’s time to switch to a Mac EDIT: LOL. I just got a message that my content will need to be approved by a moderator.

After 11,000 posts, you’d think I’d be beyond that. And, I thought I was a moderator. Anyhow, I hope this gets posted, because I think it benefits everyone to know they CAN easily get out, but maybe they should take another look at what they want to get out of the service and what Evernote offers before throwing out the baby with the bath water. EDIT 2: Whoops. Maybe I logged in with the wrong account. 0 posts after ten years? (“Grumpy Monkey”).

Hi, at this moment there are not other apps like Evernote. Bear is very closed to Evernote, but not for windows. Also apple note, but without tags and export possibilty.

There are years since I try to go away from Evernote becouse I think is too arogance with costumers. Evernote don't hear the voice of costumers!!! Evernote is the best example of how a costumers service don't must be.

Evernote don't care about his costumers. I'm still waiting for Evernote alternative: Trello, notion, simply notes ecc. Are not Evernote's alternative. Good apps, but there have not the Evernote features: tags, crossplatform, insert image, documents, files, record voice, good search engine. I don't like the last Evernote's joke: Better Evernote!!!!

This is the arrogance of evernote. Nobody ask for restiling apps icon or colors, but For Evernote staff this is a priority. All the bugs, issues of Evernote app are not a priority. The apps icon design is the priority. Thank you evernote's staff! Sorry for my bad english. Evernote  fe atures: tags, crossplatform, insert image, documents, files, record voice, good search engine.

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   These are features I use the service for, and Evernote continues to work well for me with 12GB of documents sync'd between a Mac and iPad. You mentioned 'Bear is very close to Evernote'; I'm not seeing that. Bear seems more focused on the editor features, compared to Evernote's focus on filing features. Evernote does supply a basic editor, and it's good for basic notes in enml/html format. These are features I use the service for, and Evernote continues to work well for me with 12GB of documents sync'd between a Mac and iPad.

You mentioned 'Bear is very close to Evernote'; I'm not seeing that. Bear seems more focused on the editor features, compared to Evernote's focus on filing features. Evernote does supply a basic editor, and it's good for basic notes in enml/html format.

Depends on what you mean by 'close'. I agree Bear is focused on the editor, which Evernote certainly isn't. But Bear works just fine for filing features - you can drag a.pdf file or text note or any other document in or out of a Bear note, just like with Evernote. Everything is stored in a database, just like Evernote. So for many people, Bear can be a direct replacement for Evernote, only with a good text editor. Its not that Bear is EXACTLY like Evernote, it doesn't have every Evernote feature (nor is the reverse true), but for many users it will work just fine in place of Evernote.

Depends  on what you mean by 'close'. I agree Bear is focused on the editor, which Evernote certainly isn't. But Bear works just fine for filing features - you can drag a.pdf file or text note or any other document in or out of a Bear note, just like with Evernote.

Everything is stored in a database, just like Evernote. So for many people, Bear can be a direct replacement for Evernote, only with a good text editor.

Its not that Bear is EXACTLY like Evernote, it doesn't have every Evernote feature (nor is the reverse true), but for many users it will work just fine in place of E vernote. For my workflow, Bear lack of document camera, draw on photos and export notes to reverse to a better Evernote. Just in case. I'm very close to swich to Bear. Hmm, I don't know, on that site Trello, Workflowy and Google Keep are rated higher than Evernote.

Supposedly Trello is ranked 1st, but I don't buy it. I have not yet located a post of people leaving for Trello, but I have seen a few of people leaving for Workflowy. I have used Trello for years. It consists of boards which contain lists which contain cards. Cards can represent nearly anything, and they can contain content, but it would be a monumental task to manage information at the scale many of us use Evernote, in Trello. I used it for project management, including using to to run an agile software development project.

It has many nice features, but isn't in the same class of application as Evernote. I don't like the last Evernote's joke: Better Evernote!!!! This is the arrogance of evernote.

Nobody ask for restiling apps icon or colors, but For Evernote staff this is a priority. All the bugs, issues of Evernote app are not a priority. The apps icon design is the priority.

Thank you evernote's staff! Sorry for my bad english.

This isn’t the first time I’ve heard someone say this about the recent rebranding. Just go to the discussion forums.

I see where people are coming from but rebranding can be very important. It’s like a team huddling before a big game. It tries to get all the players on the same page. If done right, it pumps them up and makes them focus on what’s truly important. Just my take. This isn’t the first time I’ve heard someone say this about the recent rebranding. Just go to the discussion forums.

I see where people are coming from but rebranding can be very important. It’s like a team huddling before a big game.

It tries to get all the players on the same page. If done right, it pumps them up and makes them focus on what’s truly important. Just my take.

Yes, that makes sense. But I watch plenty of sports, and have yet to see a team promote their great huddling as a reason to support them. EN's brand refresh may have served a useful purpose, but I think they'd have done better to just do it, and let those of us users who are going to notice it say something about it. Otherwise, it feels like they're saying, 'We've redesigned our packaging, but don't expect anything better on the inside.' There have been so many unfixed bugs in the Windows program for the last year or so that many users felt that the highly-touted rebranding was an indicator of misplaced priorities. There have been so many unfixed bugs in the Windows program for the last year or so that many users felt that the highly-touted rebranding was an indicator of misplaced priorities.

Nicely stated. We do not know what exactly they are working on or where the real priorities are.

We only 'perceive' what is happening behind the doors by what is being shown. They might have been working on an amazing V7.0 for Windows and just putting band aids on 6.x versions, we do not have a way of knowing. It is an 'indicator' like you said. And when people are so frustrated with the core functions of the app such as disappearing cursor, notes disappearing, or being overwritten, a marketing effort that does not solve these issues frustrate people.

I think that is easy to comprehend. Going back to the sports analogy, your team is sucking, they need to be practicing shooting, improve passing etc. Instead, they announce that they have new jerseys and been practicing a new celebration move.

You don't know if during training they are practicing the fundamentals you expect but the announcement make you believe that their focus was somewhere else. There is information you try to relay and there is the perceived information. Perceived information may be significantly different that what is going on or what you are trying to relay sometimes. Nonetheless, I sure hope the rebranding is getting the employees pumped up and it is a new direction for addressing many fundamental issues that have been frustrating especially windows app users. I'm using the Windows client in Windows 10 everyday at work. It's definitely my favorite client, especially compared to the Mac, Web, and iOS versions.

The cursor disappearing (which was my biggest complaint) seems fixed now. If we're talking about the same issue. I wish there was a shortcut key to focus on the list of notes (like there is in the Mac version) and PDF handling could definitely be improved, but other than that I think it's pretty solid. Can you give me some specific bugs, and I'll test them out? I did notice some weird text resizing with tables.

Can you provide details on the shortcut key. It's definitely my favorite client, especially compared to the Mac, Web, and iOS versions.  Mac is my favourite client; all the desktop features plus scripting On Mac, it's like second nature to me. Muscle memory. Have to look it up.

⌘ Select Note List I use that all the time on Mac to move around in the Note List and edit multiple notes. If there is a way to do it in Windows, I haven't found it yet. I basically use F2 to edit the title of a note and Shift+Tab to move back to the Note List. It's not a very elegant solution. Back to the Mac version though. I wish it could be customized more.

I mean customizable toolbars is a staple of Mac OS, right? Yet the Windows client is way more flexible in this area. You can even throw your shortcuts up into the toolbar. I wish there was one client to rule them all.and in the darkness bind them. I'm using the Windows client in Windows 10 everyday at work.

It's definitely my favorite client, especially compared to the Mac, Web, and iOS versions. The cursor disappearing (which was my biggest complaint) seems fixed now. If we're talking about the same issue.

I wish there was a shortcut key to focus on the list of notes (like there is in the Mac version) and PDF handling could definitely be improved, but other than that I think it's pretty solid. Can you give me some specific bugs, and I'll test them out? I did notice some weird text resizing with tables. It always depends on how you use it and how many notes you have, I guess. Worst thing for me in windows is the lag - start a search and wait minutes for results (22.000 notes total) is my #1 problem, Image notes and business cards captured in Android not visible in windows unless I open the note in a new window is a close second.

Also, search not finding notes which are definitely there (and contain the text I searched for) drove me to abandon ship a month ago. Today I caved and bought another year of premium at 40% off.

Mainly because it was really difficult to migrate notes in 'free'. Selecting a note that exceeds the free size limit brings a popup ('note is too big and cannot be synced', paraphrasing here because I use the german version).

Right clicking brings the same popup. Whatever I tried, I always got that popup. I couldn't find any way to export those notes without upgrading. So, while I'll continue to move my notes, I guess I'll give EN another chance for that year. Maybe, just maybe, we'll have a usable windows client by then. Folks, please report Evernote client-specific bugs and feature requests in the appropriate subforums, preferably in their own topics.

Yes, all posts are read by Evernote staff, as I understand it, but It helps to focus the conversation(s), and if you post in the correct forum, I believe that you're more likely to get direct feedback from the development staff for that product 9(though not guaranteed). But, I suspect some of the folks in this thread (judging by the title) aren't in the mood to go through bug reporting ritual in the hopes that the developers on high will hear their pleas of suffering and intervene to save them this time - they appear to be going it on their own. But, I suspect some of the folks in this thread (judging by the title) aren't in the mood to go through bug reporting ritual in the hopes that the developers on high will hear their pleas of suffering and intervene to save them this time - they appear to be going it on their own Hey, if people want to have a public Evernote swan song, then fine - I have no problem with that (though I'll confess to being amused by the 'gimme nested notebooks by next Tuesday or I'm cutting the cord!' Type posts you see occasionally). If people legitimately want bugs and feature requests (which are entirely fair) to be noticed by someone who might actually do something about them or comment with some authority, and not get lost in any drama and side-commentary, then it's probably better to post them appropriately. Hey, if people want to have a public Evernote swan song, then fine - I have no problem with that (though I'll confess to being amused by the 'gimme nested notebooks by next Tuesday or I'm cutting the cord!'

Type posts you see occasionally). If people legitimately want bugs and feature requests (which are entirely fair) to be noticed by someone who might actually do something about them or comment with some authority, and not get lost in any drama and side-commentary, then it's probably better to post them appropriately.shrug. A swan song thread sounds good to me. “Let us sing; let us raise the cries; let us beat our breasts; lament with me!”.